Warhammer 40,000 Battle Report: Drukhari vs Ulthwe 2000pts

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Paul Shobrook
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Guys your all marvellous players and top bosses! However, I’ve watched 6 or 7 Bat reps recently where the lists have been totally one sided in the favour of the spider. It isn’t fair on Ben or other tabletop lads, and it isn’t fair on subscribers either. Fluff Vs Competitive doesn’t work and isn’t fun to watch. Myself and other subscribers totally get that a studio transfer is underway so this will have an effect on content but this is getting silly now. This comment is going out right after the new Ultramarine Codex report went out and that was… Read more »

gcanaparo
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gcanaparo

Guys I love fluffy battle reps a lot. But they only work if you both go fluffy. Anyone who’s ever rolled a die knew how this game would end the moment he saw the lists. That’s not enjoyable.
To be clear, this is not an plea for Bone to take harder armies; I love seeing fluffy things like wraithlords and walkers. Rather, it’s a request that Spider play a more relaxed list to match. Save the hard lists for Tacticas.

Ruud Steenbakkers
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Ruud Steenbakkers

also, venoms from red grief also benefit from the reroll charges

Ruud Steenbakkers
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Ruud Steenbakkers

Gents

if you have charged u can still move and consolidate so in T2 Lawrence, your reavers might have been able to lock the guardians to not get shot. since the second unit was able to move 6 inches….

Oliftw
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Oliftw

Spider – when you bring a list like this and you see Bone has added wraithlords, its your job to intervene and get him to amend the list to ensure quality content

BigGrim
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BigGrim

I converted 3 Razorwings into Nightwings for my Craftworld. I didn’t use those weapons. I’ll have a look and see if I can find those sprues Spider.

doKtor_kALT
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doKtor_kALT

Those Wraithlords really need a rework, because currently they’re pointless. Great Battle Report as usual.

Tavez
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Tavez

As a new Drukhari player it was cool to see the Wyches in action! Some food for thought for my lists 🤔and as always lots of fun to watch.

Bulwyf
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Bulwyf

Someone on a previous recent battle report called out that Spider is using very tough lists and Bone was bringing fluffy/not that good lists and the game played out accordingly. I got onto that person a little bit as did others but they have a point. I have been a Dark Eldar fan and player since you could legally play them and this is the only edition they’ve been a top tier army. It isn’t that just one way of playing them is strong. Their codex in 8th as of this post gives you unparalleled variety in unit composition. You… Read more »

OGGY
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OGGY

Tactical mistakes Bone made during the game: 1) Deployment – you should’ve put your Windriders in the webway as there were no chance at all to survive them with three Razorwings and some Venoms coming to you turn 1. 4+ save and -1 to hit is not enough to survive and thus Spider had a very easy target to destroy and obtain First strike. 2) Turn 1- You should’ve jumped out with all of your heroes and advanced towards a Razorwing, then advance forward with two or three wave serpents to screen your heroes. You could manage to unleash some… Read more »

Mloremi
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Mloremi

Are dissy cannons still needed ? Got a pair going if required

Jamess9
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Jamess9

Gang, didn’t they reverse the decision that re-rolls apply jn overwatch? I’m a bit confused about that one…

Unclefester89
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Unclefester89

Loving this game fellas. Aren’t witches 3 attacks each with their blades?

The Providia Campaign
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The Providia Campaign

A Warhammer batrep In 2019 with no knights!?! REJOICE!!! Very refreshing to see two armies representative of and dedicate to their actual codexes. Don’t get me wrong, knights are beautiful models but I’m just a tad fatigued by seeing them so often as of late. Gorgeous Sons of Medusa btw!

0MaxK0
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0MaxK0

Bone: A toughness 8 unit that can take some heavy weapons, use massive wraithbone fists in combat and looks great all for about 100 points? Looks like a fun unit to use! Poison weapons: *Exists* Bone and collective audience: … * As a side note, this game was a tragedy. That Wych cult list is so strong in comparison to the Asuyani there wasn’t a contest. Bone, I’m coming to the conclusion that whenever you’re up against Lawrence you really need to bring the hardest list possible because whatever he brings its going to be very competitive, maybe not fully… Read more »

Tobias Engelien
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Tobias Engelien

The pre-game banter is at least 50% of the reason i love to watch your battlereports!

dneuhoff87
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dneuhoff87

Great Batrep as always. I have one question. Will the victory point and command point cards as well as those lovely holders for them be made for sale in the shop? I think those things are quite cool and would love to acquire some. I love the objective markers I bought from you and would love to buy some more of the swag.

stephen-sayers
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stephen-sayers

Love the batrep guys!

MasterWis
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Hi Guys – The moment I saw those War Walkers & Wrait lords I was “Oh Boy this is gonna be painful”. I have to agree with the overall comments pointing out the Deja Vu of like the 10 last Bat reps between Spider and Bone being Lawrence coming fully loaded and smashing Bone less focused / taking it less seriously I guess (except for the parts with the sheer luck un-balance). Now I also have to give credit to the fact that you guys must have played and shot a huge amount of games in a short period of… Read more »

D J kiepura
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D J kiepura

Great bat rep despite eldar getting spanked (again). You guys need some proper eldar love 🙁 Did my best not to shout at on screen bone. I was expecting the night spinners . That re-roll on smite instead of going straight for doom got me upset! Very upset! Only joking 😛 Also as mentioned by others, i think shuri canon bikes are not worth it maybe in web way but better for a 20 man guardian blob..Consider taking two units of 5 and 3 for reapers and 1 squad of 20 guardians and 5 rangers. And why not cast protect… Read more »

James Ellis
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James Ellis

Awesome battle report guys. Lawrence I’m pretty sure you can activate a unit that charges even if you wipe out it’s target unit and both pile in and consolidate. I’m sure I have see players use this to get another 6 inch move In tournaments.

Archmike
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Archmike

I’m selling all my eldar because I haven’t been able to run a full pure Swordwind with banshees and scorpions etc since about 4th ed 🙁

HouseOfGeek
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HouseOfGeek

I’ve sent the spider an email offering free razor wing disintegrator cannons. Feel free to message me back.

Yann
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Yann

interesting game, I would even wager for that Darkeldar list against a full meca… even IKs… there are so mainy units the IKs would have trouble getting the victory points…
courage Bone you will get spider one day… 🙂

Warp5p1d3r
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Warp5p1d3r

if you make a charge move you can then pile in and consolidate regardless if there is a unit within 1 inch. so you could have tagged those guardians if you wanted to.

Matt Large
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Matt Large

Ulthwe? Ulthnay…..

Samuel Harding
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Samuel Harding

Bone was at a massive disadvantage because GW have changed the points on CWE twice since release (wave serps and dark reapers up in points) but nothing has gone up for Drukari. They need considersble points increases in ch aprvd 2019.

Stephen Boxall
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Bone: Stuffs it up at the list building stage

That’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off.

Kira Selby
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Kira Selby

This was a great batrep. Probably my favorite out of all the ones I can remember – even if the lists were a little unbalanced.

Rozh Sadon
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Rozh Sadon

Another hilarious report 😀 but I would say lets try and keep making the lists a little more balanced. There’s been a few blowouts lately!

Marcello Genovese
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Marcello Genovese

@2:22:00 didn’t Lawrence get blood and guts when his succubus cut down the wraith lords last wound?

Marcello Genovese
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Marcello Genovese

@ 2:21:00 pretty sure you got scour the skies for the reavers in the psychic phase Bone. I am fuzzy on maelstrom but I don’t think it requires a phase as part of it’s conditions.

Still_Sharpe
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Still_Sharpe

@Lawrence have you looked into the FW Wraithseer instead of the normal lord. For 15 points more you get so much! Just took 3 to a tournament and performed very well.

Marcello Genovese
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Marcello Genovese

One day all this teasing will culminate in us meeting at an event and there will be a big uncomfortable hug if you keep it up Lawrence lol. You know I love you fellas! 😀 BTW I love the armies, I am a truekin player and I have been enjoying Cult more and more these days. I have been pining for a cult report for like 5 years it feel like lol. Would be nice to watch them take on Beard Iron Warriors to really make us feel old 😀 As for craftworlders, I love me some warwalkers! They rock,… Read more »

Tomgar
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Tomgar

Fantastic stuff. Really cool to see the Drukhari drive right into the enemy host like a blade in the heart, super cinematic! Valiant effort from Bone though, just bad luck with the cards.

Brett Pettitt
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Brett Pettitt

Quick question, are we going to see an apocalypse game to christen the new studio when it is done? Maybe some really thematic music, great pans around massed armies on the table and the whole lot of you there duking it out?

LonelySandbar
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LonelySandbar

Would be nice to see some lists that use things like the Reaver bikes in not such a spammy way. The PlayonTabletop video with the Ynnari list with 1 squad of each of shining spears, scat bikes, and reavers was an interesting take and I’d be interested to see how the bikes would fair when you aren’t dedicated such a large portion of your list to that specific unit. Cheers y’all!

Kerubi
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Kerubi

I feel you on the balding part B-Bone :,(

DelinquentBunny
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DelinquentBunny

And just as I purchase the Drukhari start collecting box you drop a wych bat rep…. How do wyches deal with mech heavy lists?

Bigj5274
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Bigj5274

Spider why don’t you make all of your special weapon wyches attacks with the impaler instead of just the extra attack it gives you. It’s an equipped weapon so you can allocate as many attacks as you want with it unless the weapon rule says otherwise

Viktor
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Oh poor Bone, that was painful to watch. You have to consider taking a bit more ruthless choices as bringing fluffy armies against the Spider is like bringing a knife to a gunfight. And you are doing better and better with CWE but there is always a caveat… And it is all about positioning and ranges and target priority. You did great with blocking the charges with Waveserpents early on but later you abandoned you entire HQ line and it was painful. 1. Don’t bring Windriders. I know they were all the rage back in the 7th ed. but now… Read more »

Björn Sjöblom
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Björn Sjöblom

Is it just me, or is anyobe else getting a Gervais / Pilkington vibe off these guys? Lawrence’s laughter and slight condecension, and Bone’s constant windgeing? Anyhow, great role models for a comedy duo, love this stuff!

knochentrocken
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knochentrocken

Why didn’t Bone get Scour the Skies when he wiped those Reavers with his Smites?!
Enjoyed this report as usual! Love the Whych Cult!

John Barber
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John Barber

I know Ben declared he’ll never use them again, but those Wraithlords each soaked up a helluvalot of firepower. It feels like Lawrence was expending most of his firepower to eliminating them each turn.

fateweav3r
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fateweav3r

You get to fight if you are within an 1″ or if you made a successful charge so you would of got your full pile in and consolidate with both reaver units and just eyeballing you probably could have trapped the guardians. I agree it would have made for a pretty boring game though…

Justin Abramowicz
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Justin Abramowicz

As someone who owns massive eldar, drukhari and harlequin armies I’m a little sad I don’t get mentioned with Marcello and the rest haha just kidding though, love you guys! But for real i may have to start ripping you apart if this injustice continues 😛

Jez Morris
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Jez Morris

Rules as written I think your spot on about combat drugs

I really think that they assumed that the process would be repeated and you choose a second lot of 6 drugs (one of each for a second time) – Rince and repeat

Mark Winn
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Mark Winn

Oh Lawrence, we need to talk about your wych cult rules. The venoms get re-rolls to charge because of red grief and wyches have a 6++ against shooting.

Bellchump
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Bellchump

The lists are always my favourite part of the show. I really hope you can try and keep it like this video. Love the technical, constructive conversations about the list building and the meta etc, and the pre-game banter. And the white background. The new list section had a bit of a Prestige Worldwide feel to it

boothyp
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boothyp

Wait a minute Bone!
Don’t want to play Black Legion as “Chaos”
But love Death Guard, and frequently play Thousand Sons, World Eaters, Dark Angels and Daemons…………..