Warhammer 40,000 ITC Tactica Report: Grey Knights vs Iron Hands 2000pts

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It’s happening! The final 7th round in a ‘who would have won’ at the recent Bournemouth GT. Lawrence vs Vik. Grey Knights vs Iron Hands. HERE WE GO!

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The Army Lists are: 

Grey Knights

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium – Grey Knights) ++

Armoury of Titan: 1 Additional Relic

+ HQ +

Brother-Captain: Blade of the Forsworn, Gate of Infinity, Storm Bolter
Nemesis Force Sword: Nemesis Force Sword

Librarian: Empyrean Domination, Sanctic Shard, Storm Bolter, Warp Shaping
Nemesis Warding Stave: Nemesis Warding Stave

+ Troops +

Strike Squad: Gate of Infinity
4x Grey Knight (Falchions): 8x Nemesis Falchion, 4x Storm Bolter
Grey Knight Justicar: Storm bolter
Nemesis Falchion: 2x Nemesis Falchion

Strike Squad: Gate of Infinity
4x Grey Knight (Falchions): 8x Nemesis Falchion, 4x Storm Bolter
Grey Knight Justicar: Storm bolter
Nemesis Falchion: 2x Nemesis Falchion

Strike Squad: Gate of Infinity
4x Grey Knight (Falchions): 8x Nemesis Falchion, 4x Storm Bolter
Grey Knight Justicar: Storm bolter
Nemesis Falchion: 2x Nemesis Falchion

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium – Grey Knights) ++

+ HQ +

Chaplain: 3. Intonement for Guidance, 6. Invocation of Focus, Astral Aim, Storm bolter

Grand Master Voldus: 6: Lore Master, Armoured Resilience, Edict Imperator, Ethereal Manipulation, Inner Fire, Warlord

+ Troops +

Strike Squad: Vortex of Doom
4x Grey Knight (Falchions): 8x Nemesis Falchion, 4x Storm Bolter
Grey Knight Justicar: Storm bolter
Nemesis Falchion: 2x Nemesis Falchion

Strike Squad: Vortex of Doom
4x Grey Knight (Falchions): 8x Nemesis Falchion, 4x Storm Bolter
Grey Knight Justicar: Storm bolter
Nemesis Falchion: 2x Nemesis Falchion

Strike Squad: Vortex of Doom
4x Grey Knight (Falchions): 8x Nemesis Falchion, 4x Storm Bolter
Grey Knight Justicar: Storm bolter
Nemesis Falchion: 2x Nemesis Falchion

+ Elites +

Apothecary: Sanctuary
Nemesis Force Halberd: Nemesis Force Halberd

Paladin Squad: Hammerhand
9x Paladin (Halberd): 9x Nemesis Force Halberd, 9x Storm Bolter
Paragon: Storm Bolter
Nemesis Warding Stave: Nemesis Warding Stave

Paladin Squad: Hammerhand
5x Paladin (Halberd): 5x Nemesis Force Halberd, 5x Storm Bolter
Paladin (Psycannon): Psycannon (Terminator)
Nemesis Force Halberd: Nemesis Force Halberd
Paladin (Psycannon): Psycannon (Terminator)
Nemesis Force Halberd: Nemesis Force Halberd
Paladin (Psycannon): Psycannon (Terminator)
Nemesis Force Halberd: Nemesis Force Halberd
Paladin (Psycannon): Psycannon (Terminator)
Nemesis Force Halberd: Nemesis Force Halberd
Paragon: Storm Bolter
Nemesis Warding Stave: Nemesis Warding Stave

++ Total: [147 PL, 1,992pts, 2CP] ++

Iron Hands

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium – Space Marines) ++

**Chapter Selection**: Iron Hands

+ HQ +

Iron Father Feirros

Primaris Lieutenants
Primaris Lieutenant: Master-crafted stalker bolt rifle

+ Troops +

Intercessor Squad: Stalker Bolt Rifle
4x Intercessor
Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword

Intercessor Squad: Stalker Bolt Rifle
4x Intercessor
Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword

Scout Squad
Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun
4x Scout w/Boltgun

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium – Space Marines) ++

**Chapter Selection**: Iron Hands

+ HQ +

Chaplain Venerable Dreadnought: Litany of Hate, Twin lascannon
Melee weapon: Dreadnought combat weapon, Storm bolter

Primaris Chapter Master: Master-crafted stalker bolt rifle, Power sword, Stratagem: Chapter Master

+ Troops +

Intercessor Squad: Stalker Bolt Rifle
4x Intercessor
Intercessor Sergeant: Thunder hammer

Intercessor Squad: Stalker Bolt Rifle
4x Intercessor
Intercessor Sergeant: Thunder hammer

Intercessor Squad: Stalker Bolt Rifle
9x Intercessor
Intercessor Sergeant: Power fist

+ Elites +

Apothecary: Strategem: Chief Apothecary

+ Dedicated Transport +

Impulsor: 2x Storm Bolters, Ironhail Heavy Stubber, Shield Dome

Impulsor: 2x Storm Bolters, Ironhail Heavy Stubber, Shield Dome

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Imperium – Space Marines) ++

**Chapter Selection**: Iron Hands

+ HQ +

Chaplain Venerable Dreadnought: Litany of Hate, Twin lascannon
Melee weapon: Dreadnought combat weapon, Storm bolter

+ Heavy Support +

Eliminator Squad
Eliminator Sergeant: Bolt sniper rifle, Camo cloak
2x Eliminator with Bolt Sniper: 2x Bolt sniper rifle, 2x Camo cloak

Eliminator Squad
Eliminator Sergeant: Bolt sniper rifle, Camo cloak
2x Eliminator with Bolt Sniper: 2x Bolt sniper rifle, 2x Camo cloak

Eliminator Squad
Eliminator Sergeant: Bolt sniper rifle, Camo cloak
2x Eliminator with Bolt Sniper: 2x Bolt sniper rifle, 2x Camo cloak

Relic Leviathan Dreadnought: 2x Heavy flamer, 3x Hunter-killer missile, Storm cannon array, Storm cannon array

++ Total: [110 PL, 2,000pts, -3CP] ++



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Rabbit
Rabbit
4 months ago

Late getting on this one.
Fabulous game to watch. First time seeing Vik comes across as a lovely bloke, knows his onions, calm, measured, confident, deadly.
nuff said.

Richard Lord
Richard Lord
8 months ago

Wow! A joy to watch. Top flight stuff. Thank you

Dusty
Member
8 months ago

Vik was amazing! I hope you lads can bring him back more often!

Domeil
Domeil
9 months ago

Vik’s voice is so pleasant that I’d expect him to narrate nature documentaries, not battle reports.

Thomas Andreae
Thomas Andreae
9 months ago

Hey since you guys have a host now for battle reports, you guys could go over deployment in Tacticas since that is a HUGE part of the game. Just to help get the insider look at your thought processes during set up and understand what your beginning game plan is.

Ankharius
Ankharius
9 months ago

Another awesome guest, another absolutely stunning army & another wonderful Tactica guys! 😉

Vik was superb. Cool, calm,collected & great to watch with wonderful explanations, tips & tactics 🙂

Maybe they changed it, but I thought Recon was from Battle Round 2 onward?

Cheers
Ankhari’

ledou8f4
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ledou8f4
9 months ago

Thanks for the Brohammer mention!

We call it the Broviathan list.

Cheers guys.

Archmike
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Archmike
9 months ago

Vik has the kind of voice where he could tell you he;s just murdered your parents and is going to eat your soul and you’d just be like “oh well that seems fairly reasonable”

ScotchRocks
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ScotchRocks
9 months ago

Vik is such an elegant player. The way he rolls the dice and calmly explains what he is doing for his opponent. A true Gentleman of the game!

Kieran
9 months ago

Wow, amazing to watch. Vik is a softly spoken genius. I got a lot out of this game, more than just the fun of watching it. Thanks guys

Tor Andersen
Tor Andersen
9 months ago

Thanks for a great report, but where is the tweaked GK list? Did I miss it? If so, can someone let me know where in the video it is described?

forestrynick
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forestrynick
9 months ago

As others have said – really great battle report, probably the best tactica you’ve done. Vik seems like a real nice guy despite being lethally efficient with his army! Hard to see how many armies could stand a chance of beating lists like this in the hands of a skilled player but it was a really interesting watch. Well done all!

Jack Burlison
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Jack Burlison
9 months ago

1) Great to see two top-tier armies facing off on tactica, headed by top-tier players too!

2) Vik seems like a great guy, and explained everything really well. Would be nice to see him back one day!

3) Wow I can see why iron hands are winning everything right now! Cogitated martyrdom in particular is crazy strong. Hopefully it gets re-worded soon so you can’t use your feel-no-pain saves on both units! Duty eternal not stacking with the ironstone would be a positive change, too.

Adam
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Adam
9 months ago

I have read about how good the Iron Hands can be but I have never sen it in action. Its like a video game with al the cheats unlocked. They have ALL the rules. Vic is an awesome gent. I learned a heap from his commentary. One of the best videos yet.

doKtor_kALT
doKtor_kALT
9 months ago

Vic is quite the well and soft spoken chap! Very respectable. Nice and interesting game, well played both!

intimeforchristmas@gmail.com
intimeforchristmas@gmail.com
9 months ago

Awesome game, I get a lot out of games with guests. Now that you guys are doing this any chance to get Winters SEO on the channel? I think that would be cool for a narrative.

Unclefester89
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Unclefester89
9 months ago

Incredible game guys everything was so clear but entertaining. Vik is one hell of a nice guy! Brilliant work as always!

lewis waller
lewis waller
9 months ago

Really good game, Vic a great guy not had the pleasure of playing him but I’ve met him at several tournaments, I suggest you have him back to play is white scar list or, another taticas with white scars would be interesting.

Princeps Augustus
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Princeps Augustus
9 months ago

Now, gentlemen, this is the kind of content that make me become a zealot of Tabletop Tactics, you put so much effort on the quality of what you do. Excellent work all of you, it was a very enjoyable and educational tactica.

Mr. Vik, congratulations on you winning the tournament, you are a gracious guest and I for sure would love to see you around in the channel again in the future. Also, your voice is fantastic.

Mr. Bone, Mr. Baker, WE are pleased.

Andrew Davis
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Andrew Davis
9 months ago

This was an awesome game. The way both of you were explaining what you were doing made this feel like a tactica tutorial which was pretty cool.

MasterWis
Member
9 months ago

Great Game – Serves you well Lawrence! Lol … But But But … I have heard the word LeFtenant way too often in this video – my ears hurt

ScorpionP2C
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ScorpionP2C
9 months ago

Such a good tactica, while this was a freeview I absolutely signed up as a member for content like this. Loved the attitude, friendly but serious about the competitive side of it! Vik was a pleasure, neither boring nor overbearing and he let his list speak for itself with quad-barrel cannon shots over the bow. Thanks alot for this one everyone involved, a really special episode among many many other gems.

Ghostwalker
Ghostwalker
9 months ago

Probably one of my favourite Guests you’ve had on. What an absolute treasure Vik is, very knowledgeable, friendly and a fantastic player. This was a joy to watch!

James_ellams
James_ellams
9 months ago

Vik seems like a great guy as well as a great list builder/player. Laurence is a great player too, it’s nice to see a hard match up for him and see him working out the plays as the game rolls on. The positive Attitude of everyone in that room really shines through. Great work guys

Krisztián Vizsy
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Krisztián Vizsy
9 months ago

Really Loved this. Thank you for make it happen.

Would happy to see Vik back on the channel.
Great level of play, awesome, calm vibe! Super nice 🙂

And indeed, Grey Knights seem to be back.
I am going to attend the Iron Man GT in Amsterdam Next weekend and there are 3 Grey Knights lists, 2 with double Paladin Bombs, one of them will be lead by Mani Cheema, so I expect them to appear on twitch again 🙂

Grey Knights list from the Iron Man GT:
https://punpun.nl/p/421
https://punpun.nl/p/382
https://punpun.nl/p/403

Lenny Craft-it
Lenny Craft-it
9 months ago

Really cool seeing this Iron Hands list in action.

Mozno1
Mozno1
9 months ago

Hope to see Vic again, what a gent!

UseLess
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UseLess
9 months ago

Great game, very nice to see this shortly after the report. Well played Vik and congrats on the win (incl. the tournament). I was happily surprised to see the friendliness in his playing style. I hope that in a competitive setting it’s the same. I’ve seen quite some fora full of talks about sportmanship, codes of conduct, etc. and it’s nice to see that this was no issue here whatsoever. Solid play, a lot of tactical insight and a deserved win.

George Fava
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George Fava
9 months ago

Excellent tactica gents! Vik is a phenomenal player and has a great personality. Definitely get him back on for more games!!
There were so many things to learn just from watching this game play out. The little nuances of the game that separate a good player from a great one.
Well done fellas!

Mikhail Davis
Member
9 months ago

Man this was one of most fun Batreps even though it was a SERIOUS tactica. Vik is an absolute gem, he played really well, I hope we get to see him again.

Mark Vachon
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Mark Vachon
9 months ago

What a great game, please bring Vik back for more tactica reports. I could watch him and Lawrence play all day.

James Frost
James Frost
9 months ago

Great game guys, sad to not see a Gray Knight win but Iron Hands look to just be too strong still. Just a quick question to Lawrence, is it really worth starting in Convergence? Surely it would be better to get the cover from Shadows or the 2W smites from escalation then just switch at the end of the first phychic phase.

Bloodgrave
Member
9 months ago

Great game guys, its just brutal to see the Iron Hands 5+ invulnerable and 5+ FNP in action, those buff themselves are not horrific just the fact that they are both 6″ buffs which is a killer, poor GK, masters of the warp cannot muster a single radius buff to literally save themselves, but the Iron Hands can twice over? pffft….

Connor Mac Cormick
Connor Mac Cormick
9 months ago

Has bone seen the 6 commander list with single drone squads (1 shield 1 guardian with breaches) and crisis suits

Hokage13
9 months ago

The final that everyone want to see, epic level 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Corruption
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Corruption
9 months ago

I normally enjoy Tactica reports but this one felt a little like a maths lesson – informative and educational but a little boring. Both generals are obviously expert players but it feels like they could swap armies and the IH would win 9/10 times. This makes Lawrence going 6-0 at the tournament even more impressive. Pure mathhammer won this one I think. Makes me glad I don’t play in ITC tournaments, I think I would give up if I came across lists like the IH. I hope GW do something to fix the broken rules for some units. Kudos to… Read more »

Sinthas
Sinthas
9 months ago

By far the best Tactica so far and in my opinion the pure definition of it. Please bring Vick back. It was a pleasure to watch 🙂

Stefan Marmion
Stefan Marmion
9 months ago

Great game to watch! I’m curious about one thing. At 49:00 Vik takes the wounds on his Eliminators one at a time because one of them is out of cover. After that one dies, he starts making his next saves with the +2 bonus that Eliminators get from cover. Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t all of the shots from one unit resolved at the same time? Wouldn’t the Eliminators be considered out of cover for all of the shots?

The Preacher
The Preacher
9 months ago

Listening to viks voice is so reassuringly gentle 🙂 you must be a therapist or counsellor in a real life! Some mixed feelings whilst youre brutally piloting the merciless iron hands haha

Martin Hultgren
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Martin Hultgren
9 months ago

Love this!!! 🙂 These kind of battle reports is the main reason I subscribe. Would love to see more tournament player guests:).

Stu
Stu
9 months ago

Super nice guy, super nasty army, great tactica, bone that is the quietest i have ever seen you over a 2 hour stretch : )

Gerald Cloud
Gerald Cloud
9 months ago

Great game spider, I think with your tweaked list you got it mate.

Quick bit I am confused about. When the one unit of eliminators shot at the Paladins in Vik’s turn 1, they rolled to 6s 2 wound and did the 2 mortal wounds. Vik had them applied first before damage. Didn’t the most recent FaQs and Chp Approved change it so mortal wounds as the result of damage have to be applied at the end of the sequence and are no longer can be applied before or after the active player chooses?

glazeeveryday
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glazeeveryday
9 months ago

Great to have Vik on the show. This was one of the best Tacticas from all parties in terms of talking through strategy and tactics. Often I find tacticas and battle reports sometimes have a overlapping grey area. This was benchmark in my book.

Cheers as always boys. Great job.

jonathan Andresen
jonathan Andresen
9 months ago

Just a correction for the IH turn one scoring. The ITC Recon says starting on turn 2 you can get 2 points per turn. So one less point but not sure how much of a different it would of made. Great Batrep all around and cant wait to see more Hammer’s of Titan in action

ghostvalley
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ghostvalley
9 months ago

The Grey Knights turn 3 fight dice were cold!

But this was a great name to watch. Vik seems like a fantastic opponent. I learned so much just watching you two play, it was really illuminating to hear both of your in-game and post game talk.

Well done Vik and well done Lawrence, this was a great great tactica to watch.

Patrick Cooper
Patrick Cooper
9 months ago

Vick (Sorry if I’ve mucked up your name breh) was a pleasure to watch! It’s a tactica and an ASMR all in one!

Viktor
Member
9 months ago

Lawrence, please answer, why don’t you start in the Tide of Shadows? You can start with it and then move to the shooty-tide in the first turn and Vik’s army didn’t have too many ways of ignoring cover so getting 1+ save out in the open meant you don’t even need to cast Sanctuary to get a 4+ against AP-3. [rant] Another thing, while your list is durable and can dish out a surprising amount of hurt, but 10 man strike squad/purgation squad does the same thing cheaper. Why not trickle them in 1 squad per turn. A few large… Read more »

Horst
Horst
9 months ago

Watched this on youtube, but man this is some great content. I love battle reports like this, with cutting edge meta lists. The fact that this was an unofficial “7th round” for your recent tournament makes it even better! Love the idea of having guests on tacticas who do well at tournaments, makes a nice change of pace and brings in some armies that you may not have the models for.

Dorn Jr
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Dorn Jr
9 months ago

“It’s only 1CP”
…for about two more months. 😉
Thanks for another quality video gents.

Bap1811
Bap1811
9 months ago

What an absolute clinic and a brutal list from Vik. Respect to Lawrence for making it look spooky at times but thats just something else. Its crazy to think the key part of this list everyone couldn’t stop talking about, which was the warlord levi stacking warlord traits and staying up with cogitated wasn’t used a single time, and only shot once before the game was effectively over. Lawrence could barely get through impulsors! Those FNPs were gross and I wonder just how much over average Vik rolled on them. Double fighting paladins to kill 10 intercessors! What is going… Read more »