Massive Changes to Warhammer 40k!! Our Balance Dataslate Reactions!
The Bard September 17, 202547
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It’s been a big week in Warhammer land as we all digest the myriad changes from the balance dataslate which arrived a little earlier than anticipated. We have sat on it for a little while and let it percolate around our brains ready to now go through it and let you guys know what we think. Spider, Meta Mike and Bard sit down to discuss their thoughts, some of them good, some of them bad and some of them (Bard) absolutely ecstatic!
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Votann got a massive nerf before their army was even released when they came out in 9th edition.. How have GW not learnt from their mistakes haha
Agreed; HATE the bubblechukka change. Orks should truly be a dice roll dependent random unpredictable Bedlam army – maybe they hit like a wet towel- maybe they hit like a planet fired from a rail-gun.
DEATHWATCH!!!!!
It’s completely bonkers how EVERYONE jokes, even with pain in thier hearts, about how terrible the Blood Angels refresh has been. It’s totally crazy the GW doesn’t just take the hit; “sorry guys, we suck at this, our bad. Here is the corrected refresh.”
I will probably still play challenger cards as I don’t play competitively. I think it needs tweaking, not be nuked.
Note on da BubbleChukkas, you can always run individual Chukkas as solo units so they’re still as random as they were XD
Incredible thumbnail! Mr Bard I’m so happy for those changes for you! BY THE BLOOD and SPEED OF THE SCARY PLASMA RAVEN!!!
Work has been hell, am so far behind. But the video still of you on the…daaaaaark shroooooud?…made me smile for the first time in 72 hours. Thank you. Apologies in advance if I screw your viewing stats by falling asleep to it on auto repeat.
Getting error code
Wait, where do the dark commune belong?! I missed the memo!
The changes to GSC are a bit more profound than you go into. I assume Chef caught it, but you missed the change to the Primus’ Cult Demagogue ability. He confers +1 to hit now rather than full hit re-rools, which explains why he went down in points. With the cost increase to Primed and Readied, that means the central combo withihn HoA has gotten a mighty thwack, which is compounded by the rise in cost to the Ridgerunners and the change to the Return to the Shadows strat. Theres been a lot of moaning that HoA might be dead… Read more »
The challenger cards couldn’t have points checked at a better time. Yes it’s before you score points for the turn, but it’s before both player score points for the turn. It’s as fair as it gets. Over competitive players just don’t like catch up mechanics
First of all: Hysterical thumbnail, I love it 😂 The Marines changes are fun for my Salamanders successor (love me some Aggressors out of a Redeemer), and glad that there are minimal changes to the Aeldari Crusade army I’m building. I was initially dismissive of the Custodes changes. But, it later occurred to me that I could replace two utility units in my current list with a full unit of Custodian Guard. They are in such a weird spot though. They hit like a freight train on the charge, but I feel that it’s an indictment on the state of… Read more »
Honestly, I can breathe a sigh of relief looking at these changes. Blood Angels look relatively fine.
Of course my Brother is joyous, as he’s taken to Meta Mike’s League list as a template for lists and had some wins with it.
He’s toyed around with it to end up with a list like:
Adrax and Company Heroes, Vulkan with 1x Infernus Squad, 2x Judiciar each leading 6 Bladeguard Vets, Regular Intercessors for Stickies, 6x Eradicators, 10x Hellblasters and 2x LR Redeemers!
The TSons did not deserve the nerf to their army rule at the same time as the massive points increases. It should have been one or the other. The Bow goats needed to go up and probably the mutalith. But everything else did not need to go up. The Army rule is going to now be more hit and miss than most other armies main rules, which is going to end up being very feel bad for most TSons players especially when combined with not being able to take as much stuff. We already had a slight problem with not… Read more »
I think the big change on the kill rig is being a monster makes it a bit more movable because it can fit through gaps that its base can fit rather than it’s whole huge body. Just gets about the board a bit easier
Hey guys, Great coverage as always. Competitive World Eaters player myself here, and I actually have to disagree a lot with your Opinions about Berserkers. Everyone who’s winning Single events is running them. They auto Bloodsurge 9 inches, they advance n charge, on the charge they still murder everything, access to ap -2 chainaxes, with Lethal/Sus, especially with Kharn n Rerolls. MoE is a beast himself. Brian daughtery and James Lovett both went 8-1 at NOVA against the best players in the world with 2×10 Zerks. Yes strength 4, sucks but apart from that, they’re an insane value unit. Now… Read more »
So my mind cannot understand these changes from a meta point of view… Death guard were top meta and had a few points increases to bring them in line with an emergency dataslate… Only for the next dataslate to leave them completely alone and increase the points of the armies that were starting to stand toe to toe with them and started to get similar win rates effectively putting the death guard back in the driving seat for the meta surely?! Space wolves, thousand sons, imperial knights etc all slapped with a wet fish of price hikes whilst having a… Read more »
Im happy with the points change to the avatar of khaine! The rest of the eldar changes make no sense whatsoever as usual… I guess someone got mortal wounded too hard by a brick of hawks at some point.
I missed the weapon changes to sanguinary guard so I’m really happy about that too! I think the spears are just amazing now. The amount of invulns in the game somewhat makes the sword’s ap3 irrelevant unless someone uses armour of contempt.
I think in the lore there are 30 sanguinary guard at any one time so you could justify 18 hitting the battlefield;)
Love that my nice new Imperial Knights Codex is out of date before it even went up for sale!
How are the Dark Angels good right now? Name another Epic Hero you are running outside of the Lion and Azreal (Sammael if you running heavy Ravenwing and CoH detachment)? Unforgiven & Inner Circle TF need to be completely rebuilt from the ground up based on the current Meta
Very pleased for Bard’s RavenWing joy!
Knights absolutely deserved those nerfs & probably more so I’m pleased with that too.
Thousand Sons changes feel extremely heavy handed which is a shame.
The thumbnail is incredible 👍🤣
With the changes, my new look green tide list will have 158 infantry!!
WAAAAGH!!
Finally my Riptide’s Ion Accelerator actually feels like an anti-tank weapon. Finally gives off an actual option now between the Heavy Burst Cannon.
The TS part was really missing Chef –
The changes to the Terminator Sorcerer is not a good change – you won’t see him more often now but even less now
Lawrence’s face when his faithlessness is mentioned is 👌
Lawrence’s face whenever his faithlessness is brought up is just 👌
Getting an error code on the vid 🙁
That’s it. That’s the best thumbnail. 👏
The thumbnail 👌 🤣 Curious that they still haven’t given Flawless Blades two different weapon profiles, as the models in the kit can be built with either two swords or a greatsword 🤔 Would have been an easy way to give the army more options.
GW hits TS harder than they hit the top of the meta DG…. gj GW… gj….
Love the Vengeance crew picture!!