Chef’s League Thousand Sons | Warhammer 40,000 List Analysis
The Chef January 26, 202378
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Chef dons the mantle of the sorcerer as he seeks to use forbidden power to take him to the Championships, but will this new League Season prove fruitful with the warriors of the Thousand Sons, or will madness take hold in this first List Analysis for League Season 2!
00:00 Intro
01:07 Magnus Rant
01:35 This is Thousand Sons, not Thousand Sons ft Daemons
1:59 List Intro – Cult of Duplicity
2:38 HQs – Daemon Prince
4:30 HQs – Ahriman
5:46 HQs – Infernal Master
6:41 HQs – Sorcerer
9:15 Troops – Rubric Marines
10:37 Troops – Rubric Marines BUT WITH FLAMERS
12:45 Elites – Scarab Occult Terminators
14:09 Elites – Helbrutes
15:44 List Wrap Up and Caballistic Ritual Thoughts
16:19 Backup Psychic Powers
16:53 Starting CP Tactics
17:20 Secondary Tactics
17:30 Wrath of Magnus Thoughts
17:49 Warpcraft – Mutate Landscape & Psychic Interrogation
19:23 Battlefield Supremacy – Behind Enemy Lines
19:58 No Mercy, No Respite & Purge The Enemy
20:35 Shadow Operations – Raise the Banners High & Retrieve Battlefield Data
21:25 Sorcerous Prowess
22:02 Burn Empires
22:45 Secondary Choices
24:33 Final Thoughts & Wrap Up
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The Army List (watch the video for discussion and tactics though!)
Thousand Sons
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As a fellow thousand sons player I like the list, however, I do like to put my best MW spells on characters rather than units as the units can use their one cast for smite, while characters can smite +MW spell if necessary to kill something. Also I think you are spending to much on the WL traits and relics. Realistically I would just bring the crystal and the redeploy. I can’t wait to see this list in action.
Take a look at a block of 5 chaos spawn. At 105 points for the whole unit, they’re absurdly killy and if you toss weaver of fates on them they’re really durable. Temporal surge on them instead of the termies gives them 14 inch moves before a charge too.
Really enjoy the tactical ponderings of list analyses, and it’ll be interesting to see whether variety or redundancy win out in the psychic powers – as an Aeldari player, I’m often torn over the same question.
Looking forward to seeing these games! Don’t forget that pistol upgrades are free for those rubric marines so you could give them all plasma pistols instead of inferno bolt pistols at no extra points cost.
Looking forward to watching you use TSons competitively! Though I am a bit sad that you don’t have any units of spawn in your list right now. I’ve always found them to be super useful and massively underestimated – even just using 2 units of 1 to come in from reserves turn 2 behind enemy lines and LoS to score some points. Though units of 5 can do a lot of work, especially if you’ve not got a weaver of fates target in mind. Another option that might (or might not) is changing to 2, 5 man, units of scarabs.… Read more »
I dont remember if you guys have them, but the Chaos War Dog “Brigands” (the double gun armigers) is what i run to cover what TS really lack, Ranged Firepower. I would consider Lascannon/ML helbrutes, cause as you said they are just so goddamn slow and they rarely if ever make it to combat on THEIR terms. when they do its usually them being charged by something that can just bonk them into the ground. Also they would work better with Eglewhateveritscalled’s Orrery, cause of the timing of activation. (Orrery, timing wise is kinda awkward) Scarabs are such great midboard… Read more »
Is it possible in between leagues we can get some competitive match ups towards the start of the league?
Keep up the good work!
But Chef, where are your Tzaangors? From how every TS boxset is constructed, i thought they would be an integregal part of any TS army…
Oh man, I can’t wait. I don’t know much about TS on the tabletop, but thematically, this is extremely cool. Powerful characters and elite troops, tons of magical tricks up your sleeve, I think this army will be a lot of fun.
I’m looking forward to following your games in the League. All these tzeetchian shenanigans suit you perfectly well, it will be fun.
And of course Ahriman would defer to Prince Philip, how can you even question this ! 😝
Chef, the whispers in your ear are the Divine One inspiring you to your Victory. Trust in your gut instict, for that is the will of the Changer of Ways. The 15th will conquer.
Can’t wait for the league.
Oh baby! My favourite format and my favourite boys! What can possibly go wrong? I’m sure you’ll command them to glory, chef. I like your list and your thoughts secondarywise. It’s a tough one. It’s hard to pick and hard to deny secondary points for your opponent. My goto secondary would be warpritual. You only have to do it three times for 12 VP and you don’t have to controll an objective. A shamen is very pointefficent for that job. But a loyal trall sorcerer with seeker can do the buisness. Behind enemy lines is surprisingly doable for TSons. But… Read more »
Love the league. Sad there won’t be any blood angels this time though
That was an excellent analysis of the list and why you choose the units, top t’son banter. I am looking forward to your games chef, even though I hate psykic and every time I have used it I hate myself more, but that’s a good thing because I turn that hate into anger for my world eater boys. I have always had a soft spot for the t sons as they did what they are made for, but was punished severely through betrayal and other primarchs decision. But Magnus did stay true to his sons and stood by them, I… Read more »
hmm my guess for the league:
Spider = Aeldari
Beard = Orcs
Stig = Custodes
Bard = Guards
Jinx = Drukhari
Chef = Thousand Sons
@Chef you missed a great opportunity to wear the belt! Your first video leading into the league and no hamming it up!?
I will be honest that i barely managed to avoid a fan girl scream when this pop up xD I think the list looks solid – I stay away from DP and use 2 Exalted Sorcerer. A little more expensive but more Cabal points, more powers and bigger spread of Aura . Rehati and Paradigm of change upgrade is pretty nice even more now that Khopesh swords are free for them. Relics are good choice as I also don’t leave the house with the crystal and Orrey. Think Behind Enemy Lines could be easy to prevent for the enemy but… Read more »
Chef for the win! I know who I’m rooting for
Stoked for Season 2. Hoping to see some Astra Militarum from the Bard, Eldar or Orks from Spider, Custodes from Stig just to completely throw everyone expecting AdMech. Really looking forward to this.
yesss, so hyped for this one, you r already my favorite for this season 😀
Emperor: Magnus trust in me and my plan.
Magnus: Cool story Pops, hold my beer while I learn you something old man. 🤦🏻♂️
Yes, new league. Finger crossed for Deathwatch! Inquisition needs to be represented as it’s unlikely we will see Grey Knights again. I am excited to see the Orks under Lawrence. It will be interesting to see how he runs them.
Fyi a tzaangor shaman is a cheap psychic action monkey and could open up warp ritual (and banners once he’s done with ritual)if you lose. There’s a relic that works on psychic actions too that works with this combo
As an Egyptian, i approve 😁🥰 routing for you all the way smit thee.
Chef running Thousand sons is right. Quick question Chef, would you like to see a wounds cap for Magnus but he stays the same points? or do you think he is overcosted in general?
So much dust… love it!
I’m so hyped for Season 2😍 TSons can be very powerful. Will be interesting to see how your Secondaries work out.
Possibly not necessary given the other armies in play, but don’t discount Empyric Guidance. Playing a 30” engagement game with your brick of terminators can really help to keep them safe from an advance and charge, particularly where fate/miracle dice are involved. Also means that you can screen them from those charges with rubrics and keep the rubrics fairly safe at 24”.
Thousand sons the first and favourite army since coming back to play in 9th, excited to see what’s to come!
I do think a shaman might be worth considering over the sorcerer it’s cheaper and faster but a little more fragile, and could be used in the same sort of psychic action function.
Guess I will have to sign back up once the second season comes close to an end 😀 (was kind of the plan anyway to let some of the reports I enjoy pile up since I’ve gotten a bit tired of tempest and boarding actions just doesn’t hit the spot for me)
Great to see the sons of Magnus in the league. Currently painting up some Thousand Sons myself. Hope to see them dominate come game time. Go Chef!
The last league was amazing and I’m super excited to see this one! Rooting for you this season Chef!
Looks like a good list, interested to see how it plays.
Also kudos Chef for the Trogdor reference you sneaked in there 🙂
health on you Chef and all followers of the thrice cursed changer.
I’ll be excited to see this army at work. One of the first TT episodes I watched was Chef’s Thousand Sons turning Bard’s White Scars inside out with psychic might, and I run my Necrons as Szarekhan to this day because of that 😅 So I am excited but also a tad concerned to see how they do in the league
Spider = Orks
Chef = Thousand Sons
Bard = Guard
Stig = Adeptus Mechanicus
Katie – going to guess Dark Eldar since her Templars aren’t done.
Fletcher – guessing Space Wolves
Beard – guessing Votann
Always nice to see some psychic heavy action, looking forwards to that!
Any chance of a sneakpeak if the new guard will be present in the league? 😎
Don’t know much on running T.S but it does look like a nasty list. Plus a little hint in bards list intresting
I’d be interesting in seeing how the triple helbrute runs, as well as how you handle the movement shinanigans with all the rubric squads. My biggest issue with TSons when I play outside of generally being bad at the game is trying to plan out all the teleports, temporal surges and getting into range without leaving a HQ open. I usually play with 2×10 SOTs, which doesn’t leave many points for harder hitting shooting, so the Helbrutes seem really good. I also notice you have the Hellfyre Racks and Soulreaper Cannons separated in the SOT squad. Is that intentional or… Read more »
I knew it! Made my day, all is dust and dust is all what remains of your enemy! May all the faces of your father be with you🦾
Magnus did everything wrong. If there was a list of things Magnus should have done, everything he did would be the exact opposite.
Doesn’t ahriman count as an exalted sorcerer for normal sorcerers?
As predicted 😉 Really looking forwards to this! Cant wait to see!
What is that Daemon Prince model? It is so gorgeous
Oh Chef, you’ve made me a happy man/disciple of Tzeentch 🥰💖
List looks solid as too 🤙
P.s Magnus done nothing wrong
Fight me 🤣
Those hell brutes are underrated
Attitude era was amazing. There’s no one like Stone Cold/Taker/!The Rock in WWE these days 🙁
Let’s GOOOOO more ts vids
Nice Chef! Are you really playing TS unless you scream UNLIMITED POWER as you smite away in the psychic phase
Excited for this